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The Fiesta ST was still my pick for a next hot hatch purchase but the new VW Polo Gti seems worth a look.

It has gotten rid of that complicated 1.4L twincharged engine (huffer set up, Turbo & Supercharger) and replaced it with a minimal lag 1.8L turbo engine.
And joy of joys a manual option instead of DSG only.

It only slightly tops the 1.6L turbo in the Fiesta ST in the power stakes but does push out more torque but, and here's the rub, only if you buy the manual option.  According to Australian market specs, the Polo Gti power ratings are the same for each transmission but the torque ratings differ are as follows:

  • 320Nm @ 1450-4200rpm (manual),

  • 250Nm @ 1250-5300rpm (DSG)  

That's a 70Nm drop with the DSG o.O  That's terrible!  Considering the higher servicing costs, complexity and history of faults with DSG gearboxes by multiple manufacturers it's not really an option at all is it unless you can't drive manual or you want DSG fuel economy (then why buy a Gti at all).

The other details between the two are as follows for the Australian market.

Fiesta ST (manual)

  • 134kW @ 5700rpm   147kW temp overboost

  • 240Nm @1600-5000rpm 290Nm temp overboost

  • 3 door hatch only, 6spd manual only

Polo Gti (manual)

  • 141kW @ 4300-6200rpm

  • 320Nm @1450-4200rpm

  • 5 door hatch only, DSG or 6spd manual

The Fiesta is 62kg lighter than the Polo and judging by multiple reviews the Fiesta ST still wins in dynamics but the Polo is the more "grown up" option however is less involving to drive "apparently"

Still it would certainly be worth test driving both.  I think I could live better with the interior of the Polo but with nearly twice the servicing costs that's something I probably couldn't look past.

Date: 2015-08-25 03:15 pm (UTC)
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If models are the same world wide, the Polo is not the Golf. It's smaller and not available in the U.S.
There's a GTi version of that as well. VW needs to expand it's line here, and get back to their basic car roots.

Date: 2015-08-26 09:46 am (UTC)
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The price the German marques charge here at dealers for servicing is disgusting no wonder there are so many specialist shops that deal with German marques at a much cheaper rate XD

Date: 2015-08-25 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
are you thinking of replacing the 'rolla?

Date: 2015-08-26 09:45 am (UTC)
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I'd like to keep the 'rolla it's still a very good car, it'll probably run without issue for the next decade or so XD

Date: 2015-09-19 04:11 am (UTC)
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Oi! So what did you end up getting, if anything?

Curious minds are curious....


Date: 2015-09-23 11:07 am (UTC)
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I haven't bought anything yet, I'm kind of more interested in buying a home but everything is very overpriced at the moment. Not exactly overpriced as the market is concerned or by the people willing to go into hoc upto their eyeballs for the next 50yrs more that house prices have outstripped salaries in most capital cities and I'm just talking "inner city" I mean well outside the city limits. And Brisbane city has very big city limits, it's not like LA or Sydney made up of a whole little set of councils.
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